to the entire population. Hence 47 million out of 300 million were deemed to have no health insurance.
There is another way to calculate this figure: First we will assume that there are now 330 million people in the US, Figure about 110 million adults. Then we add up all the following groups: US veterans, Federal employees, State and City employees, members of the armed forces, everyone over the age of 65, all MediCaid recipients, people covered by employee insurance and finally people who have private insurance.
The last time that I gathered this information, came up with a number that was about 12 million.
Now, since this recession, many people have lost their employee health care plans.
Well, I agree with you 100% about medical bankruptcy's. There are many cases when a family's personal wealth is destroyed by medical bills. This needs to be addressed.
Also, Pre-existing conditions should not exclude a person from present or future health care. Once again, this needs to be addressed.
I would like to believe that life saving treatments are not denied to anyone in the United States for any reason. I cannot verify nor disavow your statement.
A solution? What is possible and what is probable are two very conflicting positions.
Let us calculate the cost of critical treatments, hospitalizations and rehab for everyone.
Let us provide for "wellness" visits, annual, semi-annual or monthly depending upon the health condition of the patiient. Let us provide for "illness" visits for a diagnosis. That should cover 90% of all necessary health care for 330 million people. OK...now what would I exclude. That's easy!
Non life sustaining medicines. Generic medicines only! Except Cancer Drugs. Power wheelchairs for geriatrics. Elective surgery. Chiropractry, Homeopathics, Dermatology, Podiatry. There are exceptions for certain conditions. Now, open market purchases of medical devices and pharmaceuticals.
Lets add up all the care and divide that by the number of adults in the US (110 million)
So lets pull a number out of my hat. Lets say 2 Trillion, divided by 110 million. Thats 18,000 per adult.
Gee, that is what I am paying! Well, we have to get that price a little lower. Hey! I've got an idea! Lets cut back on other spending programs! Foreign Aid, Foreign Military bases,
Lets not create 200 more government agencies (that encompasses a great deal of the cost in this new Health Care Plan) I am sure there are a few more "Dept Ofs" that can have lower budgets and actually function.
The two trillion figure that I came up with us actually very high. It is based on GDP which covers all transactions in a given industry.
One last thing. DO NOT OUTLAW Personal Insurance or personal expense. Let us allow the purchase of additional insurance by those who choose to.
That'll do it, a little tweak here or there.BUT No inside deals. no buy offs or silly business.
So. What do you think? Rational......?????
One last point for David. Medical Care can be denied outright or it can be denied by elongating the period of diagnosis, and treatment. A bureaucratic delay can be just a lethal as an out right denial of service.
OOPS! Sorry about that! Just had an Eureka moment....it happens.
We already pay for all Federal and Local employess and Medicare and MediCaid....
We would only have to cover the other people and their families.
So why is this "Health Care Reform Law" going to cost a Trillion or so dollars????
Maybe I'm missing something!
hen we now focus on the "Medical Industrial Complex" as opposed to those bad guys from the 60's the "Military Industrial Complex".
The resistance to Government provided Health Care is not focused on denying care to people, but rather, denying control to the Federal Government. The benfits of this law, "no pre-existiing condition denial", no limits on costs of treatments, family coverage to the age of 26......are all the sheep's clothing disguising the wolf within. That wolf is the predisposition of the current administration and the "social democrats" in Congress that desire to control all aspects of our lives and economies.
Dave, I really do not want my government to dictate what foods I am allowed to purchase. OH! Salt is no good, we're going to make you live longer!
OH! TransFats are no good (They replaced animal fats in the early 80's), now were french fries fried in Palm OIL! YUK!
I guess thay want us to live "healthy" until we drop dead from boredom.
We will be a bunch of healthy corpses!
2 million people die in the US each year! What's going to happen to the "Funeral/Cemetary Industrial Complex" if we all live another 5-10 years! They'll go out of business, they'll need a bailout! Cemetaries will become overgrown, grave diggers will be on unemployment, when you do die, no one will be there to dig the grave....It will be a GRAVE RECESSION!
MAYBE we'll go green! SOYLENT GREEN!
There Ya' Go! Real re-cycling! (thank God for SciFi, it predicts the future)
Every now and then a Freudian slip will reveal the "social justice" intent. When Maxine Waters explained to Exxon-Mobile that their (Congress) intent was to "socialize" Exxon, she quickly attempted to adjust her words. Oh! I know, she really did not mean what she said.
Geez! So many politicians don't mean what they say! How conveinent!
"Think before you speak" / "Say what you mean and mean what you say"
I did a little quick math before. The GNP for Health care is 2 trillion dollars, I divided that by 300 million people. That comes out to $6,666.66 per person per year. BUT...The GNP covers all tranactions for a particular industry, I assume that it covers wages, costs of doing business, production, delivery, transportation and many other factors. So, this is a very accumulative figure. I'd like to parse it up a bit.
My next task is to determine/estimate the actual pay out to the providers of health care on a national basis. I should be able to get estimates from MediCare, Medicaid, and total out of pocket expenses.
I am certain that exact values exist within each segment.
This crazy country of ours was founded by defying tyranny.
Do we still teach these words "Give me Liberty or Give me Death!"
See! I remember something from High School American History!